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Post by Amanda Lynne Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:06 pm

Hi All I have today received my latest bloods and Glucose suppression test. There was no covering letter or comment from Endo which I find quite rude, it's like you wanted the results you work them out Neutral 
I need some help as I think I know what they mean but my brain is struggling.
Oh before I start
Calcium 2.68 (range 2.1-2.55)
Corrected 2.60
PTH 3.8 (range 1.5-7.6)

It says normal response: Basal IGF1 within age-related reference range (41-60yrs) 9-40 nmol/L
Mine is 17.8
At least one GH concentration falls to <0.60 ug/L following oral glucose load.
Mine is 
0.1
0.1
<0.1
<0.1
0.1
For Acromegaly
GH levels in most cases do not fall from their initial high fasting levels and may show a paradoxical rise. Basal IGF1 level is elevated.
I'm hoping that my levels show normal response, well that's how I'm reading, please if you read this differently let me know, I'm ready for any response.
You would have thought that a "caring" doctor could have just put a note in with this as I've said on 3 emails how stressed and concerned I was about result.
Thanks guys 
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Post by Brigitte0 Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:25 pm

Well Amanda, I haven't the foggiest idea to be honest and I can't understand why there wasn't some form of communication from the Endo. Surely if it was abnormal, it would have been flagged up or the Endo would have stirred from sitting on his/her posterior to request communication with you? I would take it that the results were normal and move on, though I would be offended that the Endo's courtesy was lacking. "Offended" was the politest word I could think of there.

I'm sorry I can't help further, but take these many cyber hugs which work much better than my brain. I did look up Growth Hormone Test results and I couldn't take it in, I'm afraid. I spelt my name wrong this morning on a form I had to fill in; I wish my parents had given me an easy name and I hadn't married a man with a surname nobody can spell either! I also wish my brain was in gear, but you can't have everything.

Love and more hugs
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Post by Amanda Lynne Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:37 pm

Hi Brigitte I confess I have spelt your name wrong several times and have to keep scrolling back to check it, it's not even a hard name, it's just our silly brains.
I agree with you Endo is downright rude or shes thinking ok smarty pants you want to keep asking for stuff and asking difficult questions, well.... Figure this out !!!!
It's the GH levels not the IGF1 that looks fine.
Is <0.60 higher or lower than <0.1 I know that make me sound stupid but I just can't figure it out, I can't believe I can't do this, I do the blasted accounts for our business.
I think I have, I think the results look ok but just wondered if any of you clever peeps can see anything I can't  Shocked  Cool 
Yes I am f..........lipping offended by Endo.
Hugs gratefully received  I love you 
Love Amanda xxxx


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Post by Tigerlily Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:11 pm

Hi Amanda

<0.60 is higher than <0.1 - don't worry, it takes me a long time to work these things out - speaking them out loud as well! - and I also did accounts for our own business!

So if your levels are less than 0.1, I think they are showing a normal response. But I think it depends what sort of test you had. Did you have the sweet glucose drink and then measurements taken afterwards? Was it called a "GH suppression test" or "glucose loading tests" - which I think refer to the same type of test, the one being another name for the other.

www.WebMD.com/a-to-z-guides/growth-hormone states that GH normally drops to less than 1 ng/mL (that is   <0.1) following the "GH suppression/glucose loading test".

Gawd, it's complicated! But I think you're in the clear as far as acromegaly goes (with all the usual caveats of not being a medical person, etc.!).

It's so rude of your endo not to include an explanation. Even if we sound as though we know what we are talking about, they should give their view. Why not send an email and ask for their take on the results, as an explanation of them "was unfortunately not included when they were sent". (Who are these people?!!)

Hope we're both right - but let me know what the official version is!

Love from Tigerlily xxxx

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Post by Amanda Lynne Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:42 pm

Hi Tigerlily thanks for replying, my brain hurts trying to figure this out, give me VAT any day.
It was a Glucose suppression test where I had to drink a lucozade type drink and was tested every 30 mins.
The measurements are GH (ug/L) I think ng/mL is US levels.
I've gone from it's ok to it's not ok and back again.
I will be sending an email to Endo stating that as no explanation was included in with results, I am taking it that this means that the test is negative as I would presume that if it had been positive I would have received a covering letter from her, or words to that effect.
If it turns out that there is something showing up on this I will be having some strong words with people.
I think she thinks I should just shut up and be grateful. Mad 
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Post by Tigerlily Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:03 pm

I think that's the right attitude, Amanda - yours, I mean, not hers!
Absolutely right, just as you word it in your post.
I always find it handy to use the words "and I shall be very upset if ... happens".

My Addenbrookes doc thinks she has passed me onto someone else now I'm investigating pituitary function too, and that she is in the clear now (of not diagnosing pHPT when the biochem was staring her in the face) - and she didn't refer me to the PTH Clinic either, where someone with more experience than her in pHPT should have spotted it ...  Little does she know I have an appointment with her registrar very soon !

You're strong, Amanda. Stay on your high horse whilst you get through all this. And then you'll be seeing FP very soon, I'll wager!!

Lots of Love, Tigerlily xxxx

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Post by Amanda Lynne Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:30 pm

Thanks Tigerlily and I will be very upset !!!!!  Very Happy 
Stupid Addenbrookes Dr if she'd had half a brain you might have had op by now. I'm sure she will get her comeuppance. I'm a firm believer that what goes around comes around !!!
As you say ATM my horse is very high at least 18 hands  cat Couldn't find a horse so a cat will do. I can't wait to be able to say "I'm contacting FP" I think I will be so excited ( oh my gawd I just wrote sexcited) affraid 
I'm deffo not that excited !!!!! That I may just give him a big kiss  Embarassed  when I see him.
Love n hugs Amanda xxxx
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Post by Tigerlily Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:43 pm

You are not wrong, Amanda  affraid  - he is so cute!!  You will be!!  And give him a kiss from me!! Had to restrain myself yesterday as Mr Tigerlily was there - he comes along as an extra brain - I need that ATM!

Yes, I agree about what comes around goes around. Poor woman!!

Love and big hugs (that's GBH actually - great big hugs - Brigitte might be able to use that - she's good at hugs - love her!)
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Post by Amanda Lynne Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:49 pm

GBH hahaha  Laughing Hahahaha  Very Happy 
Oooooooo I can't wait to meet FP now  bounce  I've a soft spot for Italians, love love love Italy I love you 
Amanda xxxx


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Post by Jasmine2 Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:30 pm

He is very easy on the eye, I must admit ....... geek  Wink result all round .....  Very Happy If he tells me I haven't got FHH and we proceed to the next round of localising he'll defo get a big kiss and GBH from me, even if they have to call security to escort me out of the building  affraid Note to self, add getting an ASBO to my bucket list .... Laughing 

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Post by Amanda Lynne Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:07 pm

Hehehe, I'm trying to think of something that ASBO is short for (apart from the obvious)....... Attractive, sexy, body, operator !!!! Is that what you want on your bucket list ???
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Post by Brigitte0 Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:35 am

Well morning GBH to you all, my friends  Very Happy (good one Tigerlily) 

I really want to know what FP looks like now! Amanda's got him as a pin up star already without even knowing!? Attractive Sexy Body Operator? Your brain is functioning well Amanda!! Last night ASBO was definitely A Sick Brigitte O, though my younger daughter informs me that Sick means great in teenage speak these days. Why do teenagers invent new meanings for words? I'm confused enough  Shocked And thinking of BO being my initials when I got married, which was a source of hilarity for many, my sister had already become S. Mellor when she got married! Many people find this chuckle-worthy  Wink 

Amanda, I hope you have drafted out a subtle email to that discourteous Endo to put her in her place. Tigerlily, I don't know how you're holding in all that information... "Little does she know..." puts me in mind of Dick Dastardly's laugh! Not that you are like a character in the Wacky Races, I hasten to add! affraid 

I think I should leave now! 

Lots of love and of course hugs (GBH or otherwise, depending on how you're feeling) 

Brigitte xxxx
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Post by Amanda Lynne Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:13 am

Hi Brigitte my views of FP have been through information given by the very naughty Tigerlily & Jasmine. I'm thinking ASBO might be more in my case A Silly Big Oldie.
Poor A Sick Brigitte O and I know what you mean about teenagers and their words meaning different things, now my two are 20 & 25 they have gone past that and cringe if I even say Fab. I remember reading Jasmine saying she does a mean version of "don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me" to annoy her son, hahaha love to see that, maybe she will do it at thr Ritz  affraid 
I bet you have had lots of wise cracks with your initials  Laughing and your Sister being S Mellor is a good one too.
I will be sending email on Monday so it's nice and fresh for Endo (via her secretary as Endo doesn't do emails direct !)
I bet Tigerlily is fit to bust with all the letters she's going to send Very Happy 
It feels a bit like Wacky Races this trip we are all on. Isn't there a character who makes a lot of noises instead of talking, that sounds like me !!!  Wink 
GBH to you too  I love you 
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Post by Amanda Lynne Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:18 am

The funny noise Man was in Dick Dastardly & Mutley's Flying Machines & called Klunk !!! Had to look that up, how sad am I ?????
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Post by Jasmine2 Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:58 am

Ladies and ....ladies! I present to you Mr Fausto Palazzo..... I rest my case!

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Post by Jasmine2 Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:07 am

Can anyone see the picture? It was there when I posted it ....!

To be honest he could look like a one eyed monster (which he clearly doesn't) for all I care. He's a damn good surgeon, well respected and kind.

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Post by Brigitte0 Sat Aug 16, 2014 11:48 am

I can't see it! I even turned my laptop on in case my tablet was playing silly games with me. But thank you for trying, Jasmine.

B xx

PS I just looked him up on Google. He smiles!! He looks like a lovely caring sort of guy Smile
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Post by Amanda Lynne Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:48 pm

Jasmine pictures not working !!!! Very Happy I looked up google too and images and the 1st three were him ( looks lovely and smiley) followed by some very strange people and a woman with a ginger perm. affraid The fact that he is so good at his job is obviously the reason you've chosen him but it helps that he's a lovely friendly person who you can relate to.
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Post by Brigitte0 Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:50 pm

Serious? Amanda?  affraid You're only serious when you're feeling really really really pants! <Joke> No, I do agree with your seriousness here. FP's write up is fantastic and he has a listening face and everyone who has seen him has felt good about their visit and his concern. 

I think Monday is a great time to send your email Amanda, bright and fresh at the beginning of the week and at the top of the weekend email backlog. 

Love and serious hugs
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Post by Amanda Lynne Sat Aug 16, 2014 2:20 pm

Brigitte haha it wont last, it's probably 20 years of working in the construction industry ( no I'm not a bricklayer!!!) admin side and dealing with big hairy a***d builders! you have to have a very good sense of humour.
Either that or flutter your eyelashes and smile sweetly, it soothes most tricky situations, when most of the men are twice my size. A bacon butty also does the same job  Very Happy 
Yes I do get a right misery when I'm feeling pants and I'm so glad you guys are here for me and know exactly how I feel and allow me to whinge and moan and not judge me.
Love n hugs Amanda xxxx
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Post by Little Audrey Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:50 pm

Well, I seem to have totally missed this thread, and it would seem I have missed a LOT!!!!

Amanda, I'm sorry your endo is an idiot! There seems to be a very long list of those! I am currently looking for another one myself. At least your results look normal, but, yes, a little note to explain that to you would have been nice!

Ok, I need a picture of FP!!! This isn't fair! I'm picturing him as a dark, handsome, Italian man. Am I close?

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Post by Jasmine2 Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:17 am

I didn't have much success posting the picture so here's a link to the pic Audrey, hope it works. Yes, he is a tall-ish, dark, handsome Italian man, and also a very professional, competent and well respected surgeon and a very kind man - emphasis on his kindness.

J x

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Post by Kathi209 Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:45 pm

Kindness will always endear me to a person no matter what they look like. But kindness and good looks is a big plus.

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Post by Little Audrey Sun Aug 17, 2014 7:47 pm

Not bad!!  Wink  I agree with Kathi. It's kindness that really counts. Good looks are a bonus. Seems like this guy had got it all, I guess.

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